Yes…this was decided way back then….
Yes…this was decided way back then….
Must be paid for by Apple…..
But seriously, isn’t it AMAZING that on August 14 “Kayani calls for new laws to tackle terrorism” and day later “Taliban” attack an airbase (that makes android tablets”) and the jokers/tired old ‘soldiers’ were ready to repeat the tired old “this is our war“, “IT IS, IT IS I SAY!”, and “we will not forgive” (yeah, like you didn’t forgive and forget 1971, Abbotabad, Mehran base attack, Salala, etc., etc., etc.)
Kayani’s demand of course only means that he wants to legalize his kidnap/murder/slaughter of the tribals — as he and his troops have already been doing it for years — and wants a freer hand without having to answer to any one — even to a dog and pony show put up by SC. This attack also means to turn focus away once again from the reopening of the NATO supply lines chief local contractors for which are Kayani’s brothers, of course) and the deep throating our top military brass gave American’s recently and promises made.
And isn’t is funny that in less than 48 hours after the attack we see:
Cui bono??? False flag no doubt :-P
P.S. They are again all out…suddently there is a “massacre” in Gilgit-Baltistan that even U.N.’s Ban Moon noticed it between his planning for the ongoing REAL MASSACRES in Libya and Syria and half of Africa…Wow!
Meet the new boss….same as the old boss…
She filed a “concise statement” pleading “the court to dismiss Sharif’s plea with costs being beyond the scope of Article 184(3) of the Constitution, which mandates the apex court to only take up matters of public importance requiring enforcement of fundamental rights.” Goes on to add crap like “matters relating to the working of ISI might come up for discussion in the US or the UK courts” so asks the court to not proceed in the case “purely out of national interest”. Did I smell a threat in there? She continues with it telling the SC that if you proceed, we will get foreign courts to proceed with defamation hearings which will expose the workings of the ISI, there by attacking national interest and gain for it “adverse (foreign) media attention which would tarnish the image of the country.”
That this is a trick to try and save his skin was admitted by Haqqani himself who reportedly said “he would use every legal tool available to him to defend himself”.
Remember the FRAUD Nawaz pulled to appear to not be a part of the rotten Raymond Davis affair? See:
and the followup discussion for all the details. That it was a fraud and that these fools cannot keep the story straight is obvious:
And Nawaz admits it”s all b.s.:
It now appears their brother Zardari has taken a page from their playbook.
UPDATE: On second thought, I remember Zardari used the ‘bad heart’ excuse many times before to not come back to the country and to get away from his legal troubles:
In June 2005, he suffered a heart attack and was treated in the United Arab Emirates. A PPP spokesman stated he underwent angioplasty in the United States. In September 2005, he did not show up for a Rawalpindi hearing on corruption charges; the court issued an arrest warrant. His lawyers stated he could not come because he was recovering from his treatment. Following a request by the Rawalpindi court, Interpol issued a red notice in January 2006 against the couple which called on member nations to decide on the couple’s extradition.
First it was reported that Zardari had a checkup done at the army hospital and was given an “all clear” certificate. Curious thing was, his spokesperson Farhatullah Babar and his bitch babar Awan strongly denied that any such check-up took place and that “Zardari had been busy in his office all day long.” Now why would you deny such a “good” thing? Probably because showing Zardari in good health goes against the plan.
So it is very interesting that the very next day, the healthy Zardari suddenly leaves for Dubai “for medical checkup”. That this too is a fraud is obvious from all the stories making the rounds. Here is how it is playing out so far:
Another VERY CURIOUS fact is the person accompanying him:
Farahnaz Ispahani, wife of Husain Haqqani, who was a journalist and had worked at the State Department-run Voice of America before joining Pakistan’s murky politics, is said to be accompanying Zardari.
MI: It’s interesting (and heartening) to see that many of the proposals made in the memo are now being implemented in the bilateral relationship. Very good.
I saw the following headline — in daily Dawn of all the places — and was pleasantly surprised:
I was surprised thinking it was about not mourning civilian deaths by drone attacks and was glad someone in the mainstream media had published something on it and that too Dawn (who usually call for MORE drone strikes and ask for bringing IDF-style check posts to Pakistan).
Boy, was I wrong! The crocodile tears Dawn and one Murtaza Haider (“Ph.D. is the Associate Dean of research and graduate programs at the Ted Rogers School of Management at Ryerson University in Toronto”) are shedding are for the Hazara shia community in Balochistan 29 of whom died in back September.
Now how do they jump from NATO strike victims all the way to a sectarian thing far, far away is amazing. That at the same time they forget thousands of other victims of drone strikes — something that would be an automatic link — is beyond my comprehension. Another NATURAL link would be thousands of Balochis killed by security forces (read Pakistan Army), no matter what sect they belong to, reeks of hypocrisy of the extreme kind. One can only not forget about those intentionally and if one is following an agenda. This is not an oversight and is proven by the fact that they would not print any comment that mentions those killings (though they find every ridiculous comment agreeing with their bullshit story “Oh, poor Hazars…oh the humanity! Poor poor shias….”).
Here is an example. I tried to be as p.c. as I could be and thought about giving posting a comment a try. I wrote:
I am surprised no mention is made of the other victims of countless NATO strikes: the victims of drones. That would have been more RELEVANT. And using this incident to talk about sectarian/minority thing is dishonest at the very least and stinks of the author having an agenda.
Another interesting thing is that among all the killings going on in Balochistan, the author can only see those from the Haraza Shia community. He knows 435 Hazarans have been killed. Care to tell us how many thousands non-Hazarans were killed in the same period in Balochistan?
I guess “Not all deaths are same” after all
After sitting in moderation for a while, the comment was disappeared like a Baloch in Dera Bugti
Shame on you Murtaza Haider and Shame on you Dawn!!!
Just some tit-bits are enough I think:
Agencies add: Defence Minister Ch Ahmed Mukhtar also said on Wednesday that Shamsi airbase would be evacuated on December 11 but added that no decision has been made regarding Shahbaz airbase as yet. (source)
Remember Shahbaz is the main airbase for drone strikes and logistic support to NATO/ISAF. Shamsi is just a stupid airstrip (and any drones that flew from there flew into Afghanistan; remember it is over 500 miles from where drone strikes are happening in Pakistan)…
On another question regarding drone attacks whether Pakistan would shoot down the spy planes, he said that Pakistan did not want war with the United States….
And still he added “and there would be no more drone strikes after December 11“
Defence Minister Chaudhry Ahmad Mukhtar said on Wednesday that the supply routes for Nato troops will be restored only if Nato apologises for the “unprovoked attack” that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers, Express News reported. (source)
So ALL they are seeking is an apology….
Note: Of course we know no U.S. apology is EVER going to come from Washington, D.C. We also know they will open up the NATO supply lines sooner rather than later. Now only thing to wait for is how they spin it and claim “U.S. has apologized” when in fact it hasn’t. Also interesting will be the “protests” by Pakistani government after the next drone strike (you know it will come soon) .
“But I told President Karzai that Afghan soil was being used against Pakistan and this is why Pakistan will not participate in that moot,” Gilani said.
The above I just added for the sheer stupid logic of this. ‘Pakistan’ has decided not to attend (meaningless) Bonn conference in protest but Gilani’s reasoning gave me the giggles. I would have asked him “Is Pakistan soil being used against Afghanistan?”
Now let’s move over to “our” Foreign Minister’s — whose only qualification is that she buys her purses and high-heels from foreign lands — offerings…
Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar has said that the Nato attack on the Pakistani check post was not an accident and “only an apology would not be enough.”
But your Defense Minister said it would be!
“Pakistan cannot see its soldiers being killed by allied forces anymore.”
Now this is a VERY interesting statement. Notice she only mentioned soldiers. Not civilians. In other words, Pakistan has no issue with them killing civilians and what she is actually saying is “Pakistan CAN see its civilians being killed by allied forces forever but not it’s soldiers”
ISLAMABAD: Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar Wednesday said future cooperation with the United States would be in the form of written
Folks, here you have clear admission there are a lot of understandings between the two and they are NOT in any written form. And on Memogate she adds:
Khar said the Foreign Office had no record with reference to the alleged memo of Mansoor Ijaz, nor was any letter sent to Admiral Mike Mullen by the government. “This memo was fabricated and such concocted stories have been published against Pakistan in the past also,” she observed.
Bullsh!t. It has been proven and she knows it (does she forget why Haqqani was fired? Interestingly she added “She said the PM had taken the decision to remove Hussain Haqqani from his office of ambassador in the national interest.” Duh!)
Khar said Mansoor Ijaz had targeted the Pakistan army and ISI. Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani has assigned the inquiry into memogate to the parliamentary committee on national security, she pointed out.
Bullsh!t! Does she forget Haqqani too “had targeted the Pakistan army and ISI” many times in the past?
“Therefore, Hussain Haqqani returned to Pakistan and will clear himself of all questions that have been raised,” she said. “Haqqani has played a pivotal role for the protection of national interests.” (source)
Er…So she already knows Haqani “will clear himself of all questions”? How? And how pivotal a role Haqqani has played for the protection of national interests we all know. The only problem is it was for AMERICAN national interest!!!
She reportedly also “warned there could be a policy review with NATO cooperation if they do it again.”
WTF? So this means there will be no policy review for sure until the next attack and even then it would just be a “maybe”.
(AP) WASHINGTON – NATO forces may have been lured into attacking friendly Pakistani border posts in a calculated maneuver by the Taliban, according to preliminary U.S. military reports on the deadliest friendly fire incident with Pakistan since the Afghanistan war began.
The NATO airstrike killed 24 Pakistani soldiers over the weekend in an apparent case of mistaken identity, The Associated Press has learned.
A joint U.S.-Afghan patrol was attacked by the Taliban early Saturday morning. While pursuing the enemy in the poorly marked border area, the patrol seems to have mistaken one of the Pakistan troop outposts for a militant encampment and called in a NATO gunship and attack helicopters to open fire.
U.S. officials say the reports suggest the Taliban may have deliberately tried to provoke a cross-border firefight that would set back fragile partnerships between the U.S. and NATO forces and Pakistani soldiers at the ill-defined border. Officials described the records on condition of anonymity to discuss classified matters.
Of course they too cannot lie straight! This talk of “poorly marked border area” and “the patrol seems to have mistaken one of the Pakistan troop outposts for a militant encampment” is utter BULL SHIT (see this where it states “There are four Pakistan and Isaf Afghanistan joint coordination centres, and the attack took place despite procedures being in place, they said. They said there had been no violation by Pakistan on the Mohmand Agency border. Nato and Isaf were aware of the border check posts in the area and had fired on them from 12:05am to 2:15am.“)
That this is all bullshit is also clear from the statement: “Officials described the records on condition of anonymity to discuss classified matters”
BTW: In telling this lie, they for the first time admit it was a JOINT U.S.-AFGHAN patrol — so U.S. TROOPS WERE ON THE GROUND AT LEAST A MILE IN. And how does a foot patrol march that far in by mistake in that nasty mountain area at midnight is itself a mystery (actually it is not; here I believe the Pakistan Army that the attack was deliberate, no question about it. Why? Anyone’s guess!)
….They said Volcano was the first check post that was attacked and communication had been cut off right after. Soldiers at the Boulder check post fired 26 air bursts but did not go after the helicopters as the situation could have gotten bad….
A little truth confirming what I have been saying is creeping out (but of course not from our military or civilian leadership):
WASHINGTON: US drone raids targeting militants in Pakistan will not be jeopardized if Islamabad does indeed expel Americans from a key air base, officials and a former intelligence officer said Monday.
Angered over a Nato air attack on Saturday that left 24 Pakistani soldiers dead, Islamabad has shut off supply routes to US-led forces in Afghanistan and ordered Americans out of the Shamsi air base used by the CIA’s fleet of unmanned aircraft.
Even if the Pakistanis make good on their threat over Shamsi, US officials and analysts say the move would be largely symbolic as Washington could fly Predator and Reaper drones out of air fields in neighboring Afghanistan.
[Here is the little lie/spin in this. Having admitted the threat over Shamsi is largely symbolic, they say Washington "COULD" fly drones out of Afghanistan. Remember "COULD" doesn't mean "WOULD". Remember, as previously shown, drones already DO NOT fly from Shamsi any more (hence described as 'symbolic') but from OTHER AIRBASES/AIRSTRIPS IN PAKISTAN and they "WOULD" CONTINUE as I stated earlier.]
“Shamsi is a nice thing to have, but it’s not critical to drone operations. They can be carried out from bases in Afghanistan,” said Bruce Reidel, a former CIA officer and fellow at the Brookings Institution think tank.
The remote Shamsi air base in the country’s southwest is particularly useful for flights hampered by poor weather conditions, he said.
[Again, read this carefully. Hidden here is the admission that MOSTLY DO NOT FLY FROM SHAMSI! Keep in mind another fact mentioned in my earlier post: Shamsi is over 500 miles away from North/South Waziristan where all of the drone strikes are taking place and to think they are flying all that way from Shamsi is plain ridiculous!]
A senior US official said the facility was not a make-or-break link for the robotic planes that have proved an effective weapon against Al-Qaeda and Taliban extremists.
“The real issue isn’t Shamsi, it’s air space,” the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told AFP.
[And NO ONE IS TALKING TAKING AWAY AIRSPACE (or the other real drone bases):]
So far there was no sign that Islamabad would bar the US aircraft from flying over Pakistan, and its announcement on Shamsi appeared designed to placate a domestic audience in Pakistan, officials said.
The Shamsi base reflects the contradictions in the uneasy partnership between the two countries, with Islamabad reluctant to publicly acknowledge its tacit cooperation with US counter-terror efforts, which many Pakistanis see as a violation of their country’s sovereignty.
[ALL Pakistanis (and foreigners) see it as violation of their country's sovereignty (except our military and civilian leadership; in fact THEY KNOW IT TOO, THAT IS WHY ALL THE LIES!) for IT IS THAT WITHOUT QUESTION]
“You have to have jet fuel delivered to Shamsi,” Reidel said. “The Pakistani public has the impression of a base that operates extraterritorially but in reality it operates because the Pakistani army helps it to operate.”
Shortly after Saturday’s air attack on the border by Nato forces, Pakistan’s cabinet ministers and military chiefs demanded the United States clear out of the Shamsi air field within 15 days.
Pakistan previously called for the Americans to leave the air base in June but later backed off.
Although President Barack Obama’s administration was working on a response to a number of demands from Pakistan, there were no plans to pull back on the drone raids, which intelligence officials have credited with weakening the Al-Qaeda network.
“Pakistan remains a critical counter-terrorism partner, and we do not anticipate significant changes in that relationship,” another US official said.
A more serious problem for the United States and Nato allies is Pakistan’s decision to close its border to convoys ferrying fuel and supplies to coalition troops in landlocked Afghanistan.
[Oh but you can be DAMN SURE that "closure" is ONLY TEMPORARY]
Nearly half of all cargo bound for Nato-led forces runs through Pakistan. Roughly 140,000 foreign troops, including about 97,000 Americans, rely on supplies from outside Afghanistan for the ten-year-old war effort.
Pakistan has shut off the border over previous incidents, partly to allay popular outrage, and US officials said they expected the latest closure would be temporary….
[Ah, so the US agrees.... ]
‘BHAIGHAIRAT/BAYSHARAM FAUJ’ MUST SEE:
…and the Army’s stand-down orders?
[I had this as a note (as Side Note 1 here) in another of the posts but feel the point is important enough that it deserves more attention]
The NATO airstrikes that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers lasted almost two hours and continued even after Pakistani commanders had pleaded with coalition forces to stop, the army claimed Monday in charges that could further inflame anger in Pakistan.
UPDATE: It is now being confirmed that NO ACTION was taken following the attack for a FULL FOUR HOURS AT LEAST (Maybe they were too busy putting finishing touches on this news release about this movie directed by Kayani’s son. That they would choose such a time for that is beyond disgusting).
Glorious Resolve is based on a true story about the infantry soldiers “who fought against all odds when 1500 miscreants raided one of the section level outpost of an Infantry Battalion in South Waziristan Agency on the night of 29 May 2009.”
The documentary highlights “not only the sacrifices and achievements of the Pakistan Army in War against Terrorism but also its glorious resolve to uproot the menace of terrorism from Pakistan.”
Glorious Resolve recreates the sacrifice of 43 soldiers of the Punjab Regiment who laid their lives during the attack.
Barf at all the clichés! And ”1500 miscreants” vs 43 soldiers? Right! The “miscreants” always attack in such huge numbers since they are doing gorilla warfare (I won’t be surprised if the numbers have been switched in this “true story” moviementary…)
|UPDATE: Now this supposed raid by “1500 miscreants” that killed “43 soldiers” has been bugging me. If there was such a raid in which 43 soldiers were killed, I am sure it would have made the papers (ISPR would not stay silent over this achievement, as this moviementary proves). But checking the papers for May 30, 2009 and May 31, 2009 (in case this happened late at night and did not make it on May 30), I can find NOT A SINGLE story about this raid. Oh yes, there are plenty of stories but they are of army raids killing “militants” but not the other way around (remember too that it was Swat that was hot those days and not South Waziristan), e.g.:
May 30, 2009:
May 31, 2009
See what I mean? That “May 29, 2009 raid by 1500 miscreants” is itself A COMPLETE FABRICATION! So much for “based on a true story!”
Here is another interesting thing: Visiting “Eserciti-e-Popoli” you see that it is almost a dead site. Most of the links don’t work and those that do have useless info that it is there is like:
An International Competition of Documentaries about the contemporary military produced by participating nations and by institutions in some way connected with the world of Defense.
1948, 1965, 1971, Kargil, Balochistan, FATA, PATA, Raymond Davis, DHAs, Musharraf, Zia, Yahya, Ayub, GHQ attack, Mehran Base attack, Abbotabad, NATO attacks, DAILY drones, NRO,…,…,…(and I don’t know how much more I am missing)
Its directed by Sarosh Kiyani who is the son of Gen. Ashfaq Kiyani
Glorious Resolve was the joint venture of ISPR and Mind[DOESN'T]works Media.Brigadier Syed Azmat Ali was the Executive Producer whereas Brig Syed Mujtaba Tirmizi was the Executive Director of the film. Lieutenant Colonel Irfan Aziz was the project director and the writer of this film which was amicably directed by Sarosh Kayani. Dr Hassan Waqas Rana of Mind[DOESN'T]works Media was the producer whereas Bilal Lashari was the Director of Photography.
The NATO airstrikes that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers lasted almost two hours and continued even after Pakistani commanders had pleaded with coalition forces to stop, the army claimed Monday in charges that could further inflame anger in Pakistan.
UPDATE: It is now being confirmed that NO ACTION was taken following the attack for a FULL FOUR HOURS AT LEAST (Maybe they were too busy putting finishing touches on this news release).
Side Note 2: I don’t have a clue what CJ Iftikhar Chaudhry means by this:
I fully agree with your main argument from today’s article titled The Enemy Within:
Pakistan’s greatest enemy today is the enemy within. “Ameer,” Quaid-e-Azam told Raja Sahib of Mahmudabad in 1948, “You have no idea of the situation here. I am surrounded by traitors”. The situation we face today is much worse. Traitors and foreign agents have captured political power with foreign support.
And to cap it all, the Memogate scandal: a dark, sinister, high-level conspiracy directed at the armed forces, a dastardly, cowardly, despicable criminal conspiracy designed to emasculate and destroy the army as a fighting force, the only shield we have against foreign aggression and the only glue that is keeping the federation together. It was an unsuccessful attempt to undermine the army’s much cherished independence and make significant changes in its decision-making system. The plan was to sweep away the existing system of command and raft of unpalatable generals and merge political and military power.
For people would have to speak up, since keeping silent would make them accomplices.
I realise what storms it is going to stir up, but truth and justice are sovereign over all else, for they alone make a nation great.
Pakistan’s “strong” response to NATO’s latest attack that killed 28 soldiers is all the rage today:
Supposedly Kiyani has ordered “effective response” to the attack , meaning he has got ALL the thieves known as the Defense Committee of Cabinet (DCC) together and supposedly they have decided to provide “No More Support in Terror War”. Of course the jewel in this crown is the announcement that “US Must Vacate Shamsi Airbase in 15 Days” that people are going gaga over.
While Pakistanis beat their chests with pride at this, let me tell you why I am laughing at their STUPIDITY: They are being had once again!!!
Yesterday I came across blurb about the latest troubles of Malik Riaz of Bahria Town, one of the most corrupt people in Pakistan, and was not at all surprised that the guy representing him was none other than Chaudhry Aitzaz Ahsan. Now I have written enough about Aitzaz to not be surprised by this. My only curiosity was to see what sort of “plea bargaining” he would be trying to do this time (Remember I have stated before that looking at the cases our most brilliant attorney has been involved in, you’ll find his only trick is plea bargaining, nothing more — look at “Aitzaz jumps in with his pig brothers” here where I talk about the Bank of Punjab case; also have a look at his brilliant work for his client in the submarine scam).
Well I was not disappointed:
Well, looks like the TERRORISTS still have the upper hand:
Speaking of déjà vu, of course there are the usual “strong protests” and the usual “halted NATO supplies” reaction (For how long? 24 hours? 48? I am sure a “please don’t mind us — we have to do this for the bloody locals” message has been conveyed through back channels — that’s a LOADED ‘back’, mind you — and I am sure Chaman border is still open <wink><wink>)
ONE THING I don’t understand is WHY is this BIG DEAL? Scores of Pakistanis get every day by drones (thanks to logistics and ‘intelligence’ support by the Pakistani troops) . Is it because the dead this time happen to be “soldiers” and not bloody civilians? Rhetorical question of course. I forget they are the ‘Chosen Ones‘ and the civis the Palestinians…so of course this is a big deal
BTW: Here are two interesting bits from the accompany story:
Two military officials said that up to 28 troops had been killed and 11 wounded in the attack on the Salala checkpoint, about 2.5 kilometres from the Afghan border….
About 40 Pakistani army troops were stationed at the outpost, military sources said.
Meaning EVERYONE at the post was either killed or maimed, and the post being more that a mile inside the border, this was no mistake.
Sorry but this bit made me laugh:
Nato helicopters attacked a military checkpoint in northwest Pakistan on Saturday, killing up to 28 troops and prompting Pakistan to shut the vital supply route for Nato troops fighting in Afghanistan, Pakistani officials said….
No, this is not the funny bit. The funny bit comes latter which exposes this lie (that they are pissed/protesting):
Another official said the supplies had been stopped for security reasons.
“There is possibility of attacks on Nato supplies passing through the volatile Khyber tribal region, therefore we sent them back towards Peshawar to remain safe,” he said.
So the bastards are still more worried about NATO supplies — the very supplies that made it possible for NATO to kill their brethren — and making sure they come to no harm.
Remember my post Egypt ‘Revolution’ from a few months back? Well here is a nice documentary that explains it further:
“It’s déjà vu all over again!” — Yogi Berra
A couple of days ago I saw this headline and had a sense of déjà vu and I laughed out loud:
Sept 01, 2011: Army claims 80 per cent of Mohmand cleared
Then today, early in the morning, I saw this headline staring at me:
Sept 03, 2011: 85pc of Mohmand Agency cleared: corps commander
PESHAWAR: Corps Commander Peshawar Lt Gen Asif Yasin Malik has said that most of Mohmand Agency had been cleared of militants and terrorists after the successful military operation restored the writ of the government there.
Talking to journalists at Mamadgat in Mohmand Agency, he said, the army had reclaimed 80 to 85 percent area of Mohmand Agency after the successful military operation Brekhna (lightning) in which 72 soldiers, including three officers, embraced martyrdom and around 150 other soldiers were injured.
The corps commander said that the major action in Mohmand Agency had been completed and now only search and cordon operation was being carried out in a few pockets….
And I went “Wow! Kiyani’s ‘men’ have managed to clear 5% of Mohmand in only TWO DAYS so we should be 100% clear in another six! Man these ‘guys’ are good!!!“
Of course I was being cynical.
Let me not say another thing and let the headlines/timeline do the talking:
You know what is even funnier? Here are two pics released by ISPR on the Mohmand Agency operations:
Yes, it’s déjà vu all over again!, eh Yogi!
(P.S. Looking at this last picture, ask yourself “Are these ladies wearing ‘burqas’ because the bad old Taliban forced them to?”)
UPDATE: Not that I had any doubts, but this one should remove any doubts for the dense ones (though I am sure it won’t):
NTC Dum Leader Jalil Admits Tripoli Fake Video on TV, NATO Crimes In Libya
Look at the faces, the hats, and the clothing! — They’re not even using the right props — Look carefully at the flags— & the picture that is held up by some one in the “Libyan” crowd! What were these Indians, waving Indian flags, really demonstrating about?
For those who don’t know:
Libyan ‘Rebel’ flag:
Almost similar, eh??
Of course Fox News can’t be far behind:
Busted! FAKE Fox News Broadcast about Libya!
Recently, Gordon Duff, the managing editor of Veteran Times has been salivating thinking about NATO’s “victory” in Libya — in fact he believes it has already happened — and has been writing some hilarious pieces. Here are a few examples (BTW: I strongly recommend you read all three — I promise you will be laughing your @ss off):
Of course I challenged him on it and he came back with abuses and threats and nothing else. When I exposed some more of his bullshit, he resorted to deleting my comments. Luckily I DID manage to save some so here are our exchanges:
Now get this: Yesterday they put out a news release (and put some effort into publicizing it as it appeared in a lot of places) proudly proclaiming they “intended to hire services (of an outside firm) for the conversion of their existing website into a world-class web portal that would facilitate the students, teachers, alumni and the administrative staff.” They added:
The main objective of this web portal is to have a world class recognition that will reflect the international standing of NUST with respect to Academics, Research and University Industry relationship through a complete web-solution having user-friendly interface and navigation.
[How does a company named E-Solutions-Pakistan with CEO Ahsan Ahmed end up being an "offshore" firm is beyond me Probably this Ahsan fella is the some of some crooked politician or crooked general]
ESOLPK (Pvt.) Ltd. an offshore software and web development outscoring firm in Islamabad has performed study on the existing websites of NUST and its constituent institutes, colleges, schools and centers and has proposed the best possible architecture for the University Web Portal.
[Observe the advert for Microsoft:]
The technical team at ESOLPK proposed the MS SharePoint technology to proceed with the Portal development. For a
university as large as NUST, with several institutes, colleges, schools and centers, which provide unique educational services to students, a technology as established as SharePint promises best results with options to enhance in future.
This portal will ensure thee[sic] impressive projection of NUST through web as well as attract new students & research scholars in Pakistan and worldwide.
Did not a single MORON scientist or big techie at NUST realize HOW FREAKING STUPID THIS IS? Instead of announcing it proudly, they should be hiding their faces in SHAME (better yet, committing collective harakiri) for what what they are admitting to is that with ALL their faculty with PhD’s in technical fields and their whole science and technology student body (remember this place offers PhDs in Engineering & IT, Medical Sciences, Business Administration, and Mathematics and Physics too besides Undergraduate and Masters degrees) CAN NOT BUILD A SIMPLE FREAKING WEB PORTAL!!!
Now that’s “thee[sic] impressive projection of NUST through web” that I have ever seen and I am sure it will “attract new students & research scholars in Pakistan and worldwide”
When the news broke of the arrest of a serving brigadier ‘for links with a “terrorist outfit” and that outfit turned out to be Hizb-ul-Tahrir — hardly anything close to “terrorists” — I knew there had to more behind the arrest. The possibility that there was at least one decent officer in the Pakistan army was certainly surprising; not at all surprising is the fact that the army had been out to get him and finally Kiyani ordered his arrest for speaking the truth one times too many….
Here is a BBC story that lifts the veil from this sordid affair and is presented in full below (My independent info told me he was arrested May 6, which is confirmed by this story too) :
23 June 2011 Last updated at 09:00 GMT
Brigadier Ali Khan, the Pakistani officer detained for his alleged links with the banned extremist group Hizb ut-Tahrir, had been highly critical of the Pakistan army’s high command over its relationship with the US, reports BBC Urdu’s Asif Farooqi.
Brig Ali Khan had been exerting strong pressure on the top echelons of Pakistan’s military to stop co-operating with American forces in the fight against Taliban and al-Qaeda insurgents, army officers who served with the brigadier during his 32-year career told the BBC.
But Pakistan’s military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said that there was compelling evidence against the brigadier because of his contacts with the banned group. [Of course this is a LIE!]
Hailing from a humble background in Punjab province, Brig Ali joined the army in 1979.
Colleagues – who did not want to be named because they are still in service – say he was a gold medallist with a distinguished career who was consistently promoted.
But his career hit a roadblock when he openly criticised Gen Pervez Musharraf when he was still army chief of staff.
At an army course at a prestigious military college in Quetta, Brig Ali asked Gen Musharraf why he would not divulge the details of an agreement with the US to the Pakistani public.
The brigadier also said the “limits” of co-operation with the US on “the war on terror” should be clearly defined.
A senior military officer who was present at the occasion told the BBC that Gen Musharraf was clearly unhappy with the questions, and had asked around about the officer.
A few weeks later, the army promotion board held its regular meeting under Gen Musharraf. Brig Ali, who had been tipped for promotion to major general, was passed over.
Successive promotion boards rejected Brig Ali while his colleagues and subordinates continued to rise up the promotion ladder, overtaking him. Indeed, to date, Brig Ali is the oldest brigadier in the Pakistani army.
His colleagues thought he would be unable to withstand a career going nowhere and would seek early retirement. But they were soon proved wrong. The brigadier told his colleagues he had more to accomplish in his job.
It soon became clear what he meant by that.
“The army is a cult in itself, so it’s intolerant towards any other cult within.”
— Maj Gen Athar Abbas
Brig Ali started writing letters to army generals, some of whom were his former colleagues, with suggestions on how to become “self reliant” and “to purge the army of the American influence”.
He told senior officers such as Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kayani that Pakistan’s “unconditional” support to the Americans was causing resentment in the lower ranks of the army.
He said that “growing” American involvement in Pakistan – especially in its military affairs – was negatively affecting the morale of the armed forces.
An officer who received one of these letters said that after coming to know that Gen Kayani wanted this sort of correspondence to end, he spoke with his former colleague and politely told him to refrain from annoying the senior leadership.
“But Ali wouldn’t listen to us. He thought his input was necessary to save the institution he was serving and loved,” the officer said.
Brig Ali even wrote to the President Asif Ali Zardari suggesting ways to make Pakistan economically self-reliant by freeing the country of American aid.
After the US Special Forces raid on Osama Bin Laden’s compound on 2 May, Brig Ali finally got the opportunity to vent his anger.
On 5 May, he was invited to a meeting by his former student and now his boss, Lieutenant General Javed Iqbal at the army headquarters.
The question that officers were asked at this meeting was how to pursue an inquiry into the 2 May raid.
One officer present in the meeting said all had been going well until it was Brig Ali’s turn to speak. In his opinion, the culprits who had hidden Bin Laden and allowed the Americans to get away with breaching Pakistan’s sovereignty were to be found within the army.
Gen Javed Iqbal was furious at the end of the meeting. As it turned out, Brig Ali’s views were not those of a lone wolf – he had managed to persuade some of his fellow officers of the veracity of his case.
Gen Iqbal promptly told the corps commanders what had happened the following day at a meeting chaired by Gen Kayani. That same evening Brig Ali was arrested.
Army officers who have worked with the brigadier say that nobody who knows him seriously believes that he has been involved in anything illegal.
“But the problem is that his anti-American views and [opinions on] self reliance were getting popular with middle and lower ranking officers,” one remarked.
In an interview with the BBC’s Urdu service Maj Gen Athar Abbas commented: “The army is a cult in itself, so it’s intolerant towards any other cult within”.
It looks as is Brig Ali’s cult was growing too rapidly and too dangerously.
Don’t you just love it? So Brig. Ali Khan has been RIGHT about everything and that is what bugged Kiyani so much. He 1s 100% correct in saying:
Interestingly, all these points are what the current command pretends to be raising with it’s public face BUT we know that is all it is. And now no one should have any doubts for if they meant what they were saying, the’d have no issues with Brig. Ali.
BTW I just loved this bit:
“But the problem is that his anti-American views and [opinions on] self reliance were getting popular with middle and lower ranking officers,” one remarked.
(especially the use of the word “problem”)
Headline from last week:
Headline from today:
Bet Kiyani is proud of both Gilani and Haqqani
Look at what the BASTARDS did: They beat up the doctor who performed the autopsies and told the truth about the cause of death (56 bullets and not “bomb” as in the official version) AND have arrested the journalist who shot the video….(some reports state he too was tortured).
Of course no surprise they are also continuing to tamper with the evidence.
And yet the Corps Commanders whine that there is a “conspiracy” to put a gulf between the people and the army and point their fingers at the media. Read the hilarious ISPR Press Release of June 09, 2011 after the Corps Commanders’ meeting, made even more hilarious as it came out the day after the Karachi daylight murder of a kid citizen at their hands…
How low can an old Fauji go? I was surprised to find top PPP apologist, former journalist, PML-N MNA Ayaz Amir on fire in the National Assembly, suddenly realizing “Ziaul Haq’s invasion on the social and cultural fabric of this vibrant society,” demanding “the Supreme judiciary to move on instead of browbeating an issue which stinks of Ziaul Haq’s tainted laws”.
But what was curious was his focusing in on the laws against consuming alcohol (Historical Note: Though Zia did in fact introduce some twisted ”Islamic rules”, it was Z A Bhutto who banned alcohol; Note also that the party Mr. Ayaz Amir belongs to WAS created by Zia himself):
But what remained the highlight of today’s performance was the unique suggestion of the chairman of Senate’s standing committee on Finance and Revenue, Senator Ahmed Ali of MQM. Though till the very last moment it remained unclear whether he was supportive of Attiqa Odho or criticizing the judiciary for taking suo-motto notice of her carrying merely two bottles of banned beverages, yet he flabbergasted not only the committee members but also the chairman of FBR Salman Siddique by asking him that how much taxes state would be able to earn if ban on these hard beverages is lifted? Upon finding Salman shying away by just blushing and staring at his own files, Senator asked in more definitive and substantive terms that would it be over Rs 70 billion? Then Salman had to hesitatingly and in his inaudible tone say that may be more than that. (source)
Yes friends, the sleeping lion (who slept through corruption and injustice of every possible kind for three years, in fact supporting those with the excuse used by every scoundrel that ‘Democracy must be protected at every cost”) jumped out of his slumber howling because Mushy’s chick and central-office bearer of his (Mushy’s) party Atiqa Odho got caught at the airport with two bottles of the good stuff and was let go which did not sit well with SC that demanded to investigate how she slipped away.
That can ONLY MEAN ONE THING: Ayaz Amir is banging the old hag. Simply, there can be no other explanation for it and everyone can see through this (see suggestion of Senator Ahmed Ali abouve).
That Ayaz himself realized that he had dropped his pants in public is clear from his backtracking (“what I meant was….”)
Too late, Ayaz! The cat is out of the bag
Exactly what happened has become pretty clear. Below are two accounts, one from the papers and one through a friend who knows someone who was there. But do watch these short videos first:
Few days back, the killing of five Chechens by security personnel has shaken up every Pakistani. After the postmortem report and the accounts of eyewitnesses, majority of people are unwilling to accept that this unfortunate members of a single family were terrorists and suicide attackers. According to those in the know sources, these five were Chechens and members of a single Muslim family — a husband, his wife, their two daughters and a son — who were traveling from Kachlak to Quetta on a rented Suzuki. Their destination was Iran and their Russian passports had Iranian visas stamped on them. The police at the Kachlak check post let them through after receiving the demanded bribe and informed the police at the Balili check post. When this family reached Balili check post, the police personnel present also demanded their ‘bhatta’ (bribe) and let the family through after receiving it. The Balili officers too informed the next check post — the one belonging to airport police station — of the approaching ‘opportunity’. By the time the family got to the airport police check post, they had run out of money to pay the bhatta to make it through. Upon hearing the family had no money to pay the bribe, the eyes of the police fell upon the jewelry of the women and demanded that as payment, which the family was not willing to do. The police continued to hold them and mounted pressure on them to give up their jewelry.
After making it through [How? Did they give up some item of jewelry? It is not mentioned], when this unfortunate family proceeded further, they inquired from the local people about the location of the Federal Constabulary (FC) post so that they could file a complaint against the attitude/actions of the police. When they started proceeding towards the FC post down the road, the police who were following them got alarmed that their doings would exposed so they informed the FC people that some foreign suicide terrorists were heading to their post laced with suicide jackets with intent to blow up the FC post. The family members proceeded towards the FC post saying kalma and “Allah-hu-Akbar” to save themselves from the police and to show the FC personnel that they were in fact Muslims (meaning they meant no harm to them) but upon hearing the cries of “Allah-hu-Akbar”, the FC personnel thought them to be suicide bombers and opened indiscriminate fire upon them as a result of which they all fell injured close to the check post. Despite being seriously injured, the women kept waving their hands appealing to them to stop the shooting but the FC personnel continued the firing resulting in the death of all five family members. After the killing of the family, police officials claimed to the media that the dead were foreign suicide terrorists who were laced with advanced weaponry and that suicide jackets were also recovered from them. Police and FC personnel, to please the Americans, for self-promotion and to get awards (prize money) declared these people to be suicide bombers and this a successful operation against terrorism when in fact no suicide jackets nor any other weapons were recovered from the victims. The police and FC personnel were close to getting their awards and promotions when the postmortem report and the accounts of eyewitnesses proved the innocence of the victims. Later it was revealed that one of the dead women was seven-months pregnant. After the killing, one of the police officers present at the scene stole the expensive necklace from the neck of one of the dead women and pocketed it but this [utterly disgraceful] act was not hidden from the eye on the camera [see video below]. This reminded me of the heinous murder of Pakistanis in Macedonia a few years back. Macedonian security forces had shot dead some Pakistanis in a police ‘encounter’. Macedonia’s Interior Minister had claimed that their security forces had killed seven people “with links to Al-Qaida”. This whole operation was shown on all international TV channels. It was possible that that story too got buried with time but Wall Street Journal exposed the real facts of the matter and informed us that these poor Pakistanis had gone to Macedonia so that they could slip into Greece to look for work. Same kind of spin was applied to the incident in Quetta. It is sad that in our security forces their are such black sheep who — blinded by chance of promotions and cash rewards — see nothing wrong in spilling the blood of innocents to get that. Whatever happened to this family, the pain is being felt by me and every Pakistani. Few years back, an FC person in Khybar-Pakhtoonkhwa had taken a university professor off of a bus and really mistreated him of which General Kiyani had himself taken notice and action was taken against those responsible. Because FC, which is an arm of the military, is being blamed in this Quetta incident along with the police, the Army Chief and the Chief Justice of Pakistan should take notice of this incident and hold an independent inquiry so that the truth is revealed and the culprits are acted against. If today eyes are closed against this incident, this will encourage the criminal minded in the security forces and incidents like this will continue to occur.
Source: Istiaq Baig, Jang Daily, May 25, 2011
Here is the video of the police stealing the necklace:
Here I must greatly admire the three eyewitnesses featured in the above video who held a press conference at the Quetta Press Club challenging the “official” version. For all we know, it would be no surprise they have been “disappeared” by now. This video also features the lies of Khanzir Col Sohail (more on that below).
Of course there are some problems with this story, specifically the role of the FC which it tries to cover up some. As can be seen from the picures of the incident, it is clear that the five were in fact rounded up inside the barbed wire fence surrounding the heavy machine gun barrack — a place they could not have gotten to themselves. That the FC felt no threat from them is also very clear by the calm way the FC personal stood close by shooting at them with out a care in the world. If they thought the five were wearing suicide belts, FC guys wouls never have gotten so close and risked shooting them to have the explosive explode and get them too. This was plain coldblooded murder. No question about it. Here is the other account that fills in some blanks:
I have some personal friends who actually are based where the whole incident happened. Basically these guys were traveling and they were stopped at 2 different check posts where they were forced to bribe.
On the third (Police) check post the police stopped them and asked for a hefty amount in foreign currency. After an argument, these people were arrested and their hands were tied with some rope???
During all this incident, one of the woman ran towards a near by army/rangers check post while her hands were partly tied with a rope and started shouting for help.
On this the Police man started abusing and hitting the remaining people. During this tussle, the others also started running towards the check post while the cops started shouting that they are terrorists. These people managed to get behind that partial war/barracked and were lying on the floor and crying for help/mercy.
The Army Officer took his time, gathered his Jawaans and than without asking them to surrender (He did not ask them to surrender even once) sprayed them with bullets.
At the time of the death even one of the dead person (a woman?) was chained and that chain was taken off by a cop who was apparently filmed by a TV Crew/Taken pictures by surrounding people/journalists) That Cop is missing since this incident and although the police officer is just suspended, the army officer is still not arrested.
Pak Army Zindabad!
The army officer being talked about is Col Sohail who has been proven to be a liar — he claimed the victims died of their own bomb going off but he was caught on tape taking part in the slaughter; see video below — but NO action was taken against him and is still at the same post enjoying the same position (I am sure a promotion is on the way).
Related videos and links:
Kharota Abad Scandal: Chechen Woman Photo Killed by FC Balochistan
…certainly NOT this bozo who came out to investigate what was going on after hearing explosions and got his ass fried (12 others died too who probably were killed in action but were ordinary soldiers and not sexy enough). Sure they are trying this exercise to create our own Jessica Lynch myth (or did he die like Pat Tillman from friendly fire?), our own Rambo, and cover their asses and trying to pretend their was some bravery shown by our armed forces (and FC and Police and Rangers who all combined to “fight” the six attackers and yet managed to kill only four, letting two escape. Yes, with hundreds of “soldiers” from four of your top security forces working jointly were engaged by the six attackers for OVER 16 HOURS and two of them still managed to escape.
So of course the choice as to who deserves the medals is simple really. I nominate for Nishad-e-Haider the four attackers who got killed and I nominate for Hilal-i-Ju’rat the two who got away.
But of course that won’t happen…Yes, that bozo WILL get the Nisha-e-Haider for army has been exposed once again as being good at only taking it up their rectom and loving it and no matter how exposed these emperors are, pretenses must be kept. Time is ripe for them to create another Rashid Minhas….
Oh what a joke they have been…The Naval Chief’s press conference was hilarious. He not only stated “This was not a security failure” but tried his behind in a novel way by singing songs of praise for the attackers and their excellent training and how successful the security forces were in limiting damage (it was only Rs. 8 Billion’s worth of damamge and destroying Pakistan’s 80% anti-sub, anti-mining capability).
In another one, the Air Force blamed the navy for the lapse (that wasn’t there according to the Naval Chief) and the Navy guy blamed the Air Force (remember this base is run by both Air Force and Navy).
Rehman Malik of course had his clown hat on as usual and proudly proclaimed they got four of the six so no worries. He of course blamed every one — Taliban, Al-Qaida, foreign forces, etc. and excused the intrusion because “there was a 35-degree blind spot in the security camera coverage which the attackers used to trespas” (Hmmm….if they knew there was a such a HUGE blindspot, why didn’t they cover it with another camera? Hardly would have made a dent in the monstrous defense budget that easily pays for a Rs 85 million bulletproof BMW for the naval chief).
Interesting, seeing that the nuber of attackers being only six looks really bad, they have tried to divert blame by now raising that number to twelve (that’s the number they put in the FIR) as if that justifies the failure of the base security. Hardly. In fact it makes them look even worse because that means not two but eight attackers got away. Wht bloody morons!
What the Army/FC/Police/Rangers are good at:
Shooting unarmed citizens….Please watch EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE. You owe it to the victims….
And one just to expose another lie:
How the media first played it:
Truth Trickles Out:
Yet the son of a whore lying piece of shit motherfucker CCPO Quetta Dawood Junejo holds a press conference claiming no shots were fired (now the same bastard had claimed on the day of the incident that hand grenades, guns and detonators were found on them) and the Chechens died from their own hand grenade (of course their bodies have been confirmed to have just bullet holes and no shrapnel wounds. See ‘Chechens died of bullets wounds’). Of course this after it has already been confirmed the five had not even a razor blade, let alone hand grenades, guns and detonators. Elaborate tales were told about the encounter and fire-fights. ALL LIES. The poor souls were able to pass three check posts and at each they were demanded bribes which they paid. By this fourth check post, these poor souls had run out of money to stick up these pigs rectums and were dealt with this way for that BIGGEST of crimes i.e. lack of bribe-money.
One of the ridiculous claim is that an FC man died after being shot. I can guarantee you these incompetent bastards killed him with ‘friendly fire’. He probably was the bastard in the bunker manning the big machine gun when his buddies opened indiscriminate fire right towards him:
… from Video Rebel’s Blog.
[I am not sure if I have done the first article justice by adding links to it (thought it might help those who are not aware of certain things). Just want to say it should be read -- at least on the first go -- without clicking any of them as it explains plainly what is going on.]
I am a banker. I gave mortgages to people I knew couldn’t pay me back and made billions of dollar. The mortgages were worthless and could not legally be sold. I packaged the loans into bonds. I sold some of the mortgages five times over. Mere mortals go to jail for selling a home five times but I didn’t. I bought a new type of unregulated insurance called a Credit Default Swap (CDS) which had been invented by my friend Blythe Masters at JP Morgan while she was still back in England.[Note: She is One of the Key Architects of Carbon Derivatives, Which Would Be at the Very CENTER of Cap and Trade]
These Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) could not pass scrutiny but there was none. The rating agencies charged me a small fee, only looked at the unregulated CDS insurance and gave the bonds a AAA rating. I then went back to the people at AIG and bought a CDS against the bonds I knew to be worthless so I could collect when the bonds went belly up.
[Apologies for this huge collection of links...If I tried to turn this into an article,I think I'll end up writing a book! Apologies also for not having them in as good an order as I'd like...]
The Rothschild/Soros/Banking/THEFT Connection:
(Another “Wow That Was Fast” : BP set to begin oil drilling off Libya )
How the trap was set:
See the above in the light of this story:
(Well, not anymore )