Faisal Shehzad, Joe Stack (And Irv Rubin)

So now it comes out that Faisal Shehzad was in financial trouble and had lost his home recently. Maybe he was just simply pulling a Joe Stack and not following orders of TTP, as S.I.T.E. was — as always — quick to claim. MSNBC tells us:

Chase Home Finance filed a foreclosure action against the couple last September, and the court dockets indicate that neither Shahzad nor his wife showed up to defend themselves. They were listed as “non-appearing” parties. The most recent papers were filed in the case on April 23, according to the Journal.

So maybe Faisal Shehzad is but another Joe Stack. Remember him?

On Thursday, Andrew Joseph Stack III flew a small plane into the IRS’s four-story office building in Austin, killing himself and at least one federal employee. Before the incident, Stack allegedly left a series of messages on a website expressing his disgust with the IRS, saying at one point that “violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer.”

Well, he was never declared “a terrorist” no matter how much Muslims screamed:

“Whenever an individual or group attacks civilians in order to make a political statement, that is an act of terror,” said Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

“Terrorism is terrorism, regardless of the faith, race or ethnicity of the perpetrator or the victims,” said Awad, adding in a statement that “if a Muslim had carried out the IRS attack, it would have surely been labeled an act of terrorism.”

And like Faisal’s, that too was “a criminal act by a lone individual” but see how the police and FBI refused to call that an act of terrorism:

In the hours after the crash, Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo told reporters that the incident looked to be “a criminal act by a lone individual.” And while Acevedo refrained from calling it an act of terror, he said the FBI, which is heading the investigation, would make the judgment call on how to categorize the crash.

A spokesman with the FBI’s San Antonio office on Friday said that the FBI was handling the case “as a criminal matter of an assault on a federal officer” and that it was not being considered as an act of terror at this time.

This also reminds me of many, many terrorist acts inside U.S. by Jewish guys (and they were NOT always acting alone) but they always got away without being labeled ‘terrorists’ or their crimes being labeled as “terrorism”. Among these Irv Rubin of the Jewish Defense League (JDL) certainly comes to mind. One of his partners killed Alex Odeh, the local chairman of the pro-Palestinian American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC), with a bomb but was allowed to escape to Israel and all was forgotten. Irv Rubin was of course allowed to continue his terrorist activities for years until he couldn’t be ignored any more. He died in prison before he could stand trial. But did he die by his own hands as the official story goes or he was done away with is up to you to decide. (BTW: they never used the word “terrorist” with his name. The closet they came to was to describe him and his partners as “Militant Jewish Activists”

FLASHBACK:

Wonder why no one remembers this more serious event at Times Square from only a few days ago:

54 arrested, 4 shot in Times Square riot

Maybe because no Muslims were involved… 😉

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18 Responses to “Faisal Shehzad, Joe Stack (And Irv Rubin)”


  1. 1 Taukeer May 5, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Just watching Shock and Awe being visited upon Athens courtesy of IMF / Goldman Sach / Lehman Brothers. I am sure Americans / NATO will be sending in the troops to control all these terrorists who are protesting against taxing the poor and enriching the Banks. Certainly the “American / Capitalist” way of life is under threat!

  2. 2 Project Humanbeingsfirst.org May 6, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=742_1272994266

    What’s your reading on this? What is going on?

    Sounds like a perfect patsy setup – like that crotch-bomber, and that shoe-bomber, and for each of those, new draconian measures were introduced in the US. Hearing the interior minister in the above CNN news clip, something smells fishy to me wrt to Pakistan. The connection is incessantly being drawn to the newly renamed province.

    thanks.

    Zahir

  3. 3 Project Humanbeingsfirst.org May 7, 2010 at 4:33 am

    Is this a real clue? Patriot Act II already has the law on the books to strip US citizens accused of “terrorism” of their citizenship. So may be not.

    US lawmakers seek to strip extremists of citizenship

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/06-us-lawmakers-seek-to-strip-extremists-of-citizenship-rs-05

    But this one is interesting:

    NY suspect probably didn’t act alone: Malik

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/03-ny-suspect-probably-didnt-act-alone-malik-ss-12

    It is interesting because even the coverage in the US media has not stated that with such confidence.

    But this reaction is understandable – most Pakistanis here in the US are running scared at what’s next for them:

    Faisal, an embarrassment for Pakistani-Americans

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/04-faisal-shahzad-embarassment-qs-05

    But what bothered me about the above oped is no recognition that a) there is such a thing as false-flag operation, and b) that “insurgency” in all areas of invasion is, or at least could be fabricated – from Iraq to Afghanistan to Pakistan – to justify counter-insurgency.

    I basically give up on trying to educate Pakistanis of Machiavelli. The Prince only exists in books, as does Hegel.

    Here is my letter to Kamila Hayat for her column in the News today on the same failing:

    Letter to Author of ‘Khawaja’s murder – a dark indicator’ May 06, 2010

    http://humanbeingsfirst.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/letter-to-author-of-khawajas-murder-a-dark-indicator-may-06-2010.pdf

    Zahir Ebrahim
    Project Humanbeingsfirst.org

  4. 4 Project Humanbeingsfirst.org May 7, 2010 at 5:02 am

    Now this is real interesting:

    New York plot
    Dawn Editorial
    Thursday, 06 May, 2010
    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/editorial/new-york-plot-650

    What made Mr Shahzad attempt mass murder, presumably in the name of religion? Asking this question isn’t the same as the nonsense about the need to understand the ‘legitimate’ grievances of disaffected young Muslims. It seems very clear that whether it is Al Qaeda or the Taliban or some other brand of international terrorism, the militants have honed in on a vulnerability in the West: young Muslims with the established legal right to live in the countries they appear to hate so much. Without understanding this vulnerability — Americans though must be careful to not turn against the Muslim population, as Mayor Bloomberg warned — an already serious threat may keep growing in severity.

    Second, why is it that all terrorist routes seem to lead to Pakistan generally and Fata specifically? While perhaps the absence of a modern state in Fata can partially explain the problems there, there is really no such excuse for Pakistan proper. It’s been nearly 10 years since 9/11 and still the infrastructure of jihad in urban Pakistan, which is likely the first port of call for those travelling from foreign lands in search of jihad, has not been uprooted. The spread of literature and audio and video paraphernalia glorifying jihad and calling for violence against the West, India, Israel, etc continues unchecked. It’s not like the centres for such violent propaganda are not known or cannot be located easily.

    Third, should more not be done with the greatest of urgency to increase Pakistan’s counter-terrorism capabilities? While it is true that the state has enhanced its response and beefed up intelligence, it is clear that lapses persist. Perhaps Pakistani authorities need to realise that another 9/11 would be a game-changer of devastating proportions.

    – ### –

    If some of the abovementioned sentences were shown to me and I was asked to guess who wrote it, I might have actually suggested Bernard Lewis, or Daniel Pipes, or even Pervez Hoodbhoy (since sometimes I get confused between the latter two, they sound so much alike when they speak of Islamofascism and the role of Islam in creating jihadis).

    So is the Dawn editor who wrote this also their mouthpiece? Or only a moron?

    Why is the most obvious case, either an idiot on medication, a patsy, a stooge, a dupe, or a false flag, among the premise, when even the first paragraph of the editorial all but alludes to a moron attempting “mass murder” with fire-crackers!

    Ok – the fire crackers is from this other article in the same edition of Dawn:

    NY car bomb suspect believed to act alone in US

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/03-ny-car-bomb-suspect-believed-to-act-alone-in-us-ss-03


    Even if used together, the fireworks couldn’t have caused a large explosion, Wiemer said.

    “The M88 he used wouldn’t damage a watermelon. Thank goodness he used that,” said Bruce Zoldan, the company’s president.

    Each M88 has an amount of pyrotechnic powder that is less than 1/6 the size of an aspirin, the company said.’

    Something is all wrong about this. I am afraid something really bad is going to be concluded from all this which will make the lives of all ordinary people even more hellish than it already is.

    I wonder if the movie “V for Vendetta” was being prescient in something – that the Qur’an was banned!!

    We have seen how the Communists suppressed Islam throughtout Central Asia when they ran they show. Could that happen in the West?

    Is pretexts upon pretexts, building up towards that?

    Zahir Ebrahim
    Project Humanbeingsfirst.org

  5. 5 Project Humanbeingsfirst.org May 7, 2010 at 5:14 am

    Hmmmm… this seems to be among the real reasons for this asinine “mass murder” with “firecrackers” – the imbeciles of the same time that pulled off 911 bit with box-cutters (except that there there was only puppetshow):

    CIA drones hit wider range of targets in Pakistan

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/04-cia-drones-pak-qs-04

    WASHINGTON: The CIA received approval to target a wider range of targets in Pakistan’s tribal areas, including low-level fighters whose identities may not be known, US officials said on Wednesday.

    The expanded strikes began under President George W. Bush and have accelerated under President Barack Obama.

    Supporters credit the covert targeted killing program with dealing a serious blow to al -Qaeda and the Taliban, benefiting US forces in neighbouring Afghanistan.

    Critics say the expanded CIA strikes raise legal as well as security concerns amid signs the suspect behind Saturday’s attempted car bombing in New York’s Times Square had ties to the Pakistani Taliban movement, known as Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, or TTP.

    Despite initial US skepticism, an official said TTP links to the case looked increasingly “plausible.”

    -###-

    There you have it, inter alia, creating rapid justification for that Scott Horton et. al. related legal challenge debate onr the Drones:

    https://fkpolitics.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/not-israel-vs-palestiine-eyewitness-account-from-s-waziristan/#comment-967

    Just one newspaper, DAWN, has it all! Full spectrum justification for all the pretexts for continued “doctrinal motivation, intellectual commitment, and patriotic gratification” for continuing “imperial mobilization” on the Grand Chessboard.

    Zahir Ebrahim
    Project Humanbeingsfirst.org

  6. 6 Project Humanbeingsfirst.org May 7, 2010 at 9:13 am

    This is interesting, FYI:

    Who Decides If Terrorist Claims of Responsibility Are Real?
    The U.S. government.

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/05/04/who_decides_if_terrorist_claims_of_responsibility_are_real

    “These guys.The Worldwide Incidents Team at the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) tracks terrorist attacks and attempted attacks around the world as well as terrorist claims of responsibility. Although it is generally assumed that terrorist groups have actually done the things they say they have done, it’s not unheard of for groups to take credit for attacks they didn’t commit.

    For instance, in the aftermath of the 2004 Madrid train bombings, the mysterious Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades — known for talking a big game on the Internet — claimed responsibility in a letter to a London newspaper. The group — which also took credit for the 2003 U.S. blackout, calling it “Operation Quick Lightning in the Land of the Tyrant of This Generation” — was later determined to be just seeking attention. Palestinian militant groups are also notorious for issuing competing claims of responsibility for attacks on Israel.

    The NCTC evaluates claims based on what is known about the groups’ competence, track record, and operating methods and assigns their statements one of five levels of credibility: likely, plausible, unknown, unlikely, and inferred. “Inferred” refers to attacks in which there is no claim but a particular group’s responsibility can be assumed based on the “attack signature” — factors such as timing, location, and methods used.

    The NCTC generally only releases more credible claims to the public, but keeps all of them in a classified record — even the most dubious — in case new information comes to light that prompts a re-evaluation.”

    — ### —

    No mention of false-flag by state-sponsored terrorists, such as NATO’s Operation Gladio in Western Europe blamed on the Red Brigade.

    And this AP story has Pakistan Taliban taking credit:

    Pakistani Taliban promise US attacks post-NY scare

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100503/ap_on_re_as/times_square_car_bomb_claim

    ISLAMABAD – The Pakistani Taliban promise future attacks on major U.S. cities and appear to claim responsibility for an attempted car bombing in New York in three separate videos that surfaced after the weekend scare, monitoring groups said Monday.


    An additional video was about 1 minute, 11 seconds long and appears to refer to the New York scare, though it does not mention any specific location or that it was a car bomb, according to the SITE Intelligence Group, another militant media monitor.

    A voice attributed to a Pakistani Taliban militant acts as if the attack was successful, and calls it revenge for the U.S. missile strike killing of ex-Pakistani Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud as well as the recent slaying of al-Qaida in Iraq leaders Abu Omar al-Baghdadi and Abu Ayyub al-Masri. The latter two were killed by U.S. and Iraqi troops last month north of Baghdad.

    SITE, which is also U.S.-based, first uncovered the video on YouTube. The tape later appeared to have been removed from the website. It was not immediately clear if militants prepared the video in anticipation of a successful attack but then removed it after the car bomb failed to explode.

    In a copy of the tape provided by SITE, an unidentified voice speaking in Urdu, the primary language in Pakistan, says the group takes “full responsibility for the RECENT ATTACK IN THE USA.”

    The videos list grievances against the United States. One clip says the attack comes in response to American “interference and terrorism in Muslim Countries, especially in Pakistan for (the) Lalmasjid operation,” a reference to the Pakistani army’s 2007 storming of the Red Mosque in Islamabad where militants were holed up.

    – ### –

    If you open up Bernard Lewis’ “Crisis of Islam – Holy War Unholy Terror”, in its Introduction, he reproduces a similar letter from Bin Laden, to make the case that Militant Islam is real, and is drawing upon historical associations to wage a clash of civilizations.

    Well, the above AP report is the basis of his sequel I guess.

    Does not look good for Pakistan. The fact that now the Taliban are suddenly Punjabis, shows the drones are going to be moving there next.

    And what bothers me is that except for a handful, 99% of ordinary Pakistanis (or so it appears) in America think all this puppetshow is real!

    I hope the perceptions are more realistic among the ordinary peoples in Pakistan?

    This is the most disturbing thing of it all: sheep convinced that other sheep are out to eat them, while the butchers and the meat eaters enjoy their stake and chips. So never mind the sheep getting together to revolt against the meat eating habbit of the hectoring hegemons (that witticism is due to Bertrand Russell).

    Zahir Ebrahim
    Project Humanbeingsfirst.org

  7. 7 Observer May 9, 2010 at 10:57 am

    This is so humiliating…obviously not for our leadership 😦

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8669512.stm

    “”We’ve made it very clear that if – heaven-forbid – an attack like this that we can trace back to Pakistan were to have been successful, there would be very severe consequences,” she warned.”

    Will the “bomb Pakistan back to stone age”?

    When will someone say “Be my guest”? I promise they will back down from such ridiculous statements!

    • 8 nota May 9, 2010 at 12:39 pm

      You FM’s reaction to the threat:

      BTW: It was interesting to see Dawn front page today. Of course Hillary’s threat is featured as the main story but right under it is this one:
      Civilian deaths in drone attacks: debate heats up
      It also features a graph listing drones strikes over the past few years (32 so far this year, 130 in the two years before that, with the first one coming in 2004. Even by their own count, “A widely-quoted study released by the New America Foundation in February estimates that between 830 and 1,210 civilians have been killed by drones since 2004, 30 per cent of estimated total fatalities”..

      So how many Times Square incidents does that equate to? Shouldn’t it us who ought to be threatening (in fact we are WAY past that threatening phase and SHOULD already be sending missiles over instead of wasting them to give khasi Gilani the giggles)

  8. 9 Observer May 9, 2010 at 11:18 am

    About Shahzad in the above mentioned article:

    “Awarded a master’s in business administration from University of Bridgeport in 2005”

    And yet he could only make a childish attempt to make a bomb. It is RIDICULOUS!

    • 10 nota May 9, 2010 at 12:47 pm

      Childish indeed! Like I said, how come all these guys (shoe bomber, underwear bomber, and now SUV bomber) are all so brilliant not even smart enough to light a match properly? Mere coincidence??

      BTW: I am prediction the next incident will involve a female trying (and failing) to blow up her fake boobs. I am serious. REALLY!!!

  9. 11 Observer May 9, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    @nota

    I wouldn’t be surprised either though the idea is a little far fetched.

    I just visited PKP and found this about you:

    http://pkpolitics.com/2010/05/05/capital-talk-5-may-2010/

    “nota said:
    Much needed show. (But why did he bring in the fat cow? )”

    “time said:
    @nota

    I am surprised you are still enjoying the freedom. Most of the missing persons fits your profile.”

    I couldn’t help. I just had to laugh, but you know….Time is right on spot 😉

    Just start thinking a little bit and one fits the “profile”….oh my God, why do we have such fellow “Pakistanis”. We really have screwed it BIG time since we have such people in abundance 😦

    Look at this fella:
    This MQM’er refuses to say he is a Pakistani.

    http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=105768582800851

    • 12 nota May 9, 2010 at 5:12 pm

      @Observer
      “I wouldn’t be surprised either though the idea is a little far fetched”

      Far-fetched? Not quite….(and yes, they ARE serious as can be seen in the following images — they are running with the idea).

      Hey you can even pack a nuke in them:

      😛

      BTW: I hadn’t seen @time’s post. Could it be a wish? I know many have that desire ;-). Yes @time is spot on and honestly I am often surprised myself (though he is wrong about me fitting the profile — I am much, much worse than most of the missing 😉 )

    • 13 nota May 17, 2010 at 9:24 pm

      @Observer
      @time really, really wants me “nabbed” 😛

  10. 14 Leo May 10, 2010 at 11:00 am

    Its an excellent blog but in the video section you have placed the anglo-american propaganda documentaries with lot of cooked up information in them as well, as the most favourite one…Are you sure you are not duped by them? Or atleast some warning about propaganda and false information by history channel should be given in advance specially in case where the 9/11 is discussed.Dont you think? Just my two cents!!

  11. 17 Leo May 13, 2010 at 12:46 am

    Its in the ‘categories’ section even I have forgotten which movie was it cause I don’t wanna watch it again.Nothing coming from their media or even so called alternate-media is without ‘mis+dis-info’ and out right propaganda from the mouths of Anglo-Europeans.But the worse part of it is the ill conceived,monkey brain kalay angraiz or worse than House Negros in Top brass of Army among us who in turn installed even better ill-conceived and ill witted sub-house negros. The day (which was years ago) that I found about these randi-business conducted by Bhangi Army I had stopped all patriotic bullcrap that i was presenting in foreign universities.Now I would rather Put a huge dildo up that past Negro musharraf or the Present Negro Kiyani.Zardari or Nawaz ain’t even worth it cause they are just lil puppies with huge bellies.


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